i took one with my bow and one with my muzzleloader, i tell you what, i'd much rather have anything but them, lol......this past season, i was walking through the marsh..i heard this hog , i stopped, sunk in the muck and it started to do that growly thing they do, i went to get my feet out so i could run just in case,lol, they wouldnt come out.you talk about freak, i freaked, lol.he started running towards me, then stopped, i knew i only had one shot, waited for him to come out but he never did....but i admit, i bout terded, lol........