I HAVE TO AGREE. I HAVE BEEN USEING 140 GR. GAMEKINGS AND PRO HUNTERS IN A RUGER NO.1 7mm REM MAG. HAVENT HAD ANY PROBLEMS WITH EITHER OF THEM THE LOAD I AM USEING IS 65.0 GR IMR 4350 WITH FED. 215 MAGNUM PRIMER HAVENT CHRONOGRAPHED IT BUT THE BOOKS ALL SAY AROUND 3280 WITH A 24 IN BARREL THIS GUN HAS A 26 SO THIS LOAD SHOULD PRODUCE CLOSE TO 3400 FPS THE LAST WHITETAIL SHOT "BY A FREIND" WITH THIS LOAD SHOT IT THROUGH THE HAM BONE COMPLETLY DESTROYING IT THEN IT TRAVELED THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF THE ANIMAL EXITING MID NECK THE EXIT WOUND WAS AROUND .750 INCH THE SHOT WAS LESS THAN 50 YARDS I DONT KNOW WHAT MORE TO ASK FROM A NON-BONDED BULLET I LOVE THEM AND WILL CONTINUE TO USE THEMTHE DEER WAS AROUND 130 LBS TYPICAL OF THE DEER WE HAVE IN EAST TN