I had an idea that I would use my climbing gaffs and my gorilla hand on stand and just hunt anywhere. I had no idea it was going to be as hard and as difficult as it was. I went carrying my bow, wearing my stand on my back and the straps are crap because it kept sliding off my shoulders. Then when I looked for a tree all I was finding were straight ones. Heck if I were going to just use straight ones, I would have brought my summit viper, it would have been more comfy and also alot less crap to carry. Then I started climing and tried to put the stand on the tree and inbetween it being so hot and nosy I just decided I wasn't even going to finish. I just climbed back down and walked on home. I wish there was a light weight stand that I could use, and not let trees determine where I am going to hunt. And one thats not only light weight but comfy enough for all day hunts. I love the climbing gaffs but they only work good on trees that I already have a stand up in. Trying to stand on them, hang on, use both hands, plus wishing you had abotu 3 more hands, is just too much trouble, more than its worth.