Thanks RH. I have a concrete basement right off my garage so I'm planning on bolting it to the floor when it's installed. I don't have that much value in guns right now (probably less than $3000) so I'm not worried about some big attack, just the common house theif kind of thing. I will probably look for a safe with good fire rating for the day when we move to the country and I like the 72" tall safes they have now, nice with the extra shelves. The Heritage safes we looked at were pretty nice, 3/8" plate door, 75 minutes at 1250 degrees, internal hinges. I'll look for those other features too, don't want to spend more than a couple grand if I can avoid it.