I usually try to get to my stand about three hours before sundown, moreso because that's about all the ol' rumpus can take. And, I really have never had much luck until about the last hour or so on my evening hunts, so for me, I think this is puh-lenty early enough.

Now, if the rut was in full swing, that's a different story... I may be out there four or five hours before sundown.

Discipline -- not desire -- determines destiny.