I thought this would be a great place to find some information about my english setter, but you pros argue too much to make anyone want to take any advise you may want to give. Common folk usually don't have the bucks to get a trained bird dog. We find dogs indog shelters and try tomake it work. Heck the best bird dog I ever owned wasn't a bird dog at all. It wasa border collie.I used it for cattle and a house pet, but during pheasant and quail season it became apointing bird dog. I killed many a pheasant with that dog.

Again please give sound advise and leave your opinion at the door.