I use them in the orchards around my home area!Some of our walnut and prune orchards offer no concealment at all!Occasionally a walnut will have a big trunk but generally speaking using a toothpick for a backrest just dont get it!What has worked for me is setting the blind up a couple of weeks before season!It doesn't take long for the game to become accustomed to it!And yes the weather factor being out of it can be a great asset!!