Stealthy, I know for a lot of people they put the compound hunting and the traditional equipment hunting in different categories. I guess I could never figure this out since we all shoot at the same real deer. I believe it gives false impressions and feelings to many newcomers in the traditional field when 3-D tournaments put the traditional stakes in the Pee-Wee ranges and the compound stakes further away. I guess what I'm getting at is that you need to know you are going to make the shot you take with the same amount of confidence as you would using a compound or you should use something else to hunt with. My 24 yr. old son hunted hard with me for 10 straight years befire he got to the point that he was mentally able to know he could kill a deer within his shooting range and since then he's done great. Last night he tagged his biggest buck yet (a 110"+ 8 pt.) using his Howard Hill 75# longbow. That makes 5 deer with his last 5 arrows over the past 3 seasons. Are we ever going to miss?? Sure, but I will be the most surprised guy in the woods when it happens and that's the kind of confidence you need to have before going afield with your traditional equipment.