I've had luck with knight and hall's lures at wal-mart. cheep too. active scrape works on mock and real scrapes. although i dilute it with my own piss so i have more to use. i like the fresh scents you by seasonly. usually go for $10 bucks for 2 oz and you find them in the freezer/frig at hunting stores in your area. there are about 2-3 different ones I've seen in dick's or gander mt here in Rochester. i also bottle my own when i take a deer and stick it in the freezer for next year.