New to the forum and first post. Thought I would stir the pot.

I know persons in Missouri who have harvested deer with the .30 carbine round and dead is dead. With good bullets, soft point, not FMJ, out to about 100 yards, I would not feel at all undergunned with the .30 carbine for white tail.

The .357 is commonly accepted as a handgun round for whitetail. Pull the ballistics charts and look at the .357 magnum round (either 4" or 18" barrel,I don't care) and compare it with the .30 carbine's energy.

I think if you can show deer on the ground from a .30 carbine round and black and white ballistics showing capacity to transfer energy into your target, what more proof can be given?