i don't think the buck hunting is bad at all. our group of 9 normally take 4 maybe 5 bucks a year, this year everyone has filled their buck tag already. two huge bucks one a 150 class 9 point and the other about a 160 class 10 point. the only thing is we aren't seeing the does. we have gotten 3 so far and saw a few small ones. we hunt area 3D