well it seems I cant get groups with the sst's unless my barrel is dirty making them tighter to load, they shoot better when they are tighter? I dont know why, but unless its a dirty barrel they wont group if its clean they will be in 6-7inch targter but all over, I am gonna try some differnt bullets just wierd that the other two sidekicks I baught like them but they are the blued versions, and mine is stainless..on a side note I shot the TC cheap shots with similar results I am gonna try a 300 grain bullet maybe help????