ORIGINAL: manuman
ORIGINAL: mustad
Manuman,
I am troubled with your definition of True Tolerance...
You state - True tolerance means allowing someone to be different without attacking or belittling. First off, why do you say attacking and belittling and what is the definition of that? Were you belittling the 20 year old at the gas station by concluding that she gave you a negative look with regards to your displayed deer? Were you belittling her by mentioning it here? I'm not sure your time would be worthwhile even thinking about it. More importantly, who is determining what is allowed? Is it you, me, Pamela Anderson, PETA? I think it needs to come back to a notion of what is defined as acceptable by the general population. There are laws right now which define what is acceptable and these laws can and will change as the majority consensus changes (hopefully never including anything about the display of harvested animals of any type). Why would you consider it "political correctness" to simply maximize the probabilty of the majority not having a negative impression on hunting since they can have a huge impact into what is deemed "allowed"?
Are you saying that it's the general population's responsibility to tolerate you showing your harvest? Why?
Finally, with regards to your comment on "gays", does your concept of tolerance stop at sexual preference?
Cheers,
It isn't difficult to figure out what attacking and belittling is--it isn't a veiled attempt or a slight of hand issue--plain and simple--if you agree or disagree, slinging insuts, becoming agressively heated, and making obscene gestures would probably qualify for being intolerant.The original post labeled everyone that displays their deer as fitting into a certain category, and that is wrong--pure and simple. My motivation had nothing to do with any of his stereotypes or any of the others that followed.I think I spelled that out pretty plainly. The new tolerance says that all views are on equal footing, not allowing for ANYONE to be right--if everyone is equal, then you have no concept of what is truly right or wrong, true or false--it is only opinion, and opinion and truth are not one and the same-necesarrily.I think the 20 year olds actions spoke for themselves considering she flipped me off, and I have no problem with lip reading either. It wasn't an assumption, which would be entirely different.I did not respond to her in kind. And before you say--see, if you had not done this it wouldn't have happened, let me go ahead and say--her attitude toward hunting didn't arise from my display--it only surfaced what was already there. And I will repeat--she was the only one that responded in this matter. out of literally hundreds of people on the highways.It is considered political correctness, due to the reasoning behind people's everchanging attitudes toward issues such as hunting. Surely you have the discernment and the awareness of the changes that have taken place in the past 15-20 years.It is of the same fabric, this mentality toward sanitizing and neutralizing any form of a standard concerning most anything in our society today. You are not allowed to have a defined position on anything for fear of 'offending'. And, it is not a devil may care attitude or being cavalier that I'm talking about--it is standing up for what you have based your life on--carefully and thoughtfully, without concern for retribution or rejection. I don't care if you or others agree with me, or act or believe as I do. You have the right to do so--that very right is in jeopardy because of the weenie mentality that attempts to neutralize and categorize everything and everybody into some neat little generic package.It is foolish to think that you can project some image of hunting that doesn't consider the reality that it involves the taking of an animals life. To attempt to skirt around this implies that there is indeed something wrong that needs to be hidden.Where do you propose to draw the line? The next logical step is to remove any photos or magazines or articles--retreat, retreat! I say no. It is time to present it as it is, and to do it in manner consistent with the broadness of the spectrum.As for the general public tolerating it--yes I am saying this. I'll kill 2 birds with 1 stone.I mentioned gays , not to make a statement one way or the other here, although I do have very definite concerns here--but that is for another forum. Ify ou want to make it into something more you can, butI don't make any reference one way or the other, other than to use this issue as an illustration. It is a loaded topic, and it is very volatile. As we are regressing in our society, what was once considered shameful, and even its participants were inclined to hide their actions--now has become more widely accepted, while the partcipation in an activity such as hunting has become something , now, that we are supposed to go around and hide as if we were participating in something shameful. This paradigm shift is very troubling. It is not for us to go around hiding or being made to be shamed into condescending or compromising what we know is an acceptible practice.Our responsibility is to reverse this trend by being able to demonstrate verbally and through educating the general public on the necessity and legitimacy of hunting as completely credible and understandible. Then we won't have as many 20 year old girls reacting to me or anyone else as if I had done something vile or immoral. Her perspective led her to react in anger. Her perspective is what the problem is--her perception.I can have the perception that if I walk out of a 30 story building I can fly like superman, and find out through someone enlightening me of my faulty belief system, without having my rights infringed or being somehow violated.And don't come back with she's entitled--because that is not the issue at all. She's entitled of course, just as any one is entitled to do anything. But entitlement does not imply or distinguish right from wrong or true from false. You or I are free to smoke, do drugs, drink one's self into a stupor everyday ofyour life--but it won't change the fact that it will still hurt or kill you and others.You can allow someone their rights and still deliver the truth to them without being intolerant. It isn't necessarry to retreat into a neutral position to achieve being tolerant. It does become necesarry to show mutual respect and dignity --regardless of ones position.And, it does point to the need for a standard that transcends opinion. What was true yesterday is true tomorrow and always. Opinions and ideas come and go.