thanks for the link.. I have some of the Gold Dot in .430 and they shoot lets say.. all right. When you get to 100 yards you tend to get some flyers and I mean they might miss by 10 inches some time. So I will have to order some of them and give them a try. I have been plinking the others off. Actually the 270 grain shoot pretty good out of my CVA Staghorn for some reason.

Plus I have a friend that is going to reload .44 magnum loads for my revolver and he can load them up. At close range what I intend to do with them they should shoot well.