update.....thursday i killed my first bird hunting solo...without a dog(pretty sure it is)...flushed a few before alone with no dog..one i remember was a nice rooster...came up perfect...out of a nasty nasty ball of jagars about 10x10...scared me when it cameup cackling and flew straight at my face! needless to say he kept flying lol......ive flushed bunches out of season.....but thursday i was out busting NASTY brush around the fields and such...and found someones begal...so i was nice enough to wait a while on the trail till the owner came...figured hed come...10 mins later he showed up..he limited out quickly...the begal ran off and he was near the truck...begal ran back to the fields lol....so he dropped the birds and gun off at the truck and him and his setter went to find the bunny/pheasant huntin begal lol....he told me of a hen he flushed and it landed in a small cornfield......i went after it....flushed it on my second pass but flushed wild and i didnt see it till it was out a little far....i hunt with heavy high velocity loads when i hunt like that....i know they get out quick without a good pointing dog...kept flyin after2 shots....so i pinpointed its landing and set after it...i was in tall yellow grass...its a grain but i cant think of the name...tall thick yellow grass...not wheat...but 2 hens flushed wild again to my left probably 30yds away and flew crossing HIGH...40foot up and 40yds out or farther...no lie....not to toot my own horn but wing shooting and busting clays came VERY naturally to me...dont know why...thats always been something id shine at....they were cruising and in the wind pretty good...first bird i was too far ahead...and too far to follow up...second bird folded perfectly...and i know it was about 40foot high and 40some yards out....it hit the tree tops on the way down....1 1/4oz rem high velocity 6s through a mod choke that holds a nice pattern......my other load is even hotter....1 1/4 oz of 7 1/2s...but loaded to the max...rems also.....i gota find them in 6s....man them are HOT loads...i heard of a pheasant load that does like 1500fps...im getting those suckers next season!...i love a heavy fast load....should have recommended that before...they either hold tight and flush close and scare the crap out of you.....or flush a little more wildly...and can get out there pretty quickly......thats why i like hot lots hunting with no dog....when hunting over my buddies good pointers all we use is standard 1 1/8th oz 7 1/2s....good luck......