i do it....and agree...you gotalearn to be the dog...walking aimlessly in a field or piece of cover is pretty much useless.....when i first started i hunted with my buddy...his dad....and their awesome dog....hunted state game lands...that are stocked and heavily hunted....also a private farm..that is holdovers/surivivers from the state game lands up the road...and also maybe a few wilds....but not to pressured....so i got to see where the dog found the birds in both trypes of hunting....it helped me alot....and now i can go out without a dog ALONE and put up a bird or 2.....alot harder..alot more walking...but alot more fun.....and you appriciate the birds you get up...