thanks for the reply sylvan. if you knew eddie clark maybe you know my grandfather as well - bob tombs. i grew up hunting with him upon the hill behind the farm and i heading back home this week (live in st. louis now) anyway, i was told all that land is leased now and theres nowhere to hunt. i just want to get in the woods as close to home as possible, will go upto the state land if i have to. when did eddie pass and the house burn? his was the geen house correct?you know anything about an old foundation on the top of the hill behind the stone quarry? email me if you want [email protected]thanks again