skeeter 7MM,

About the time you were writing your reply, I decided to dump the load out the breech and just push the sabot out. Let me say next time I will make sure I just shoot the load out. The sabot would not come out by simply pushing it. I guess it was stuck in that infamous 777 crud ring![:@] I then realised that I should attach my cleaning jag and a t handle to the ramrod to get more force. I begin pushing and I feel it move just a little, then I hear snap....I broke my t handle leaving a nasty looking scrape on my chest. After tossing the broken t handle out across the driveway and a few choice words I went to plan B! I wound up having to use a block of wood on top of the ramrod and I lightly tapped the sabot out with a hammer.Those durn sabots are definately tight, especially after shooting.