black Bull, do you use aluminum or carbon arrows? I've had some slight noise drawing the alums but the carbons seem pretty quiet. I waxed the aluminums and that seems to have cured the noise on those. The vaseline seems like it might be easier to though. I have the QS deluxe and have been shooting feather and plastic helicals. The feathers seem to hold up real well and the plastic tend to get a little wavy after a while but, even on my old Bodoodle rest, after so many shots the vanes usually need replaced anyway.