if a bowtech is what you want take a look at the liberty or justice . i have the patriot vft single cam and am totaly happy with my hunting as well as my 3d results. i constantly post 300 scores but i have been at it quite a few years. i will say this .i shot 300's years ago with my old pse boss 1 impact and it was a relatively slow bow compared to today. a super shorty is far less forgiving than a medium length bow which would be good for hunting as well as 3d.