There is a RED DOT out on the market that is made in China. It is called Winchester.. so they must have bought the rights to use the name as I am sure it has nothing to do with them. Anyway, I saw one in a gun shot. It is a 40mm unlike mine which is a 28mm which limits the view. I also saw them on sale for around $69.00. The guy at the gun shop that was selling them of course claimed they were great RED DOTS. Whether they are any good I could not say. The idea of the larger field of view seemed like a good idea.