I've been saying the same thing in all my QDM bashing for years. I tell every young, new or unsuccessful new bowhunter.... JUST SHOOT SOMETHING. True I don't want you shooting bambi, but shoot something that's legal. Doe, spike, ...whatever. Then do it again a few times and learn what archery and all that goes with it is about. THEN, if you decide you want to wait on ONLY MACHO BUCK, so be it. But don't you be telling the rest of the world what to shoot. It's just as hard to whack those first few, no matter what variety they are, as it is to shoot Macho Buck. And hey, it's suppose to be FUN!!!!! It's not fun if you're shamed into holding out for something that may not even exist in your hunting grounds. You shoot it..... I"ll jump up and down and be happy for you. BUT, I'm getting old and can't jump as high as I once could so I need some help here.[8D]