I was shooting the 200 grain Shockwaves with 110 grains of Triple Se7en and the accuracy was exceptional. I think I could have pushed them harder but since my ranges are limited, I really saw no need to speed them up and take a beating with the recoil from the rifle. I am going to be using them this year in my Black Diamond XR when I hunt one stand that overlooks a large hay field. I might get a 150 yard shot, but with the rolling hills, I doubt that.. I think they will make an excellent deer projectile..