Dave, I buy the 100 box 44 cal, Hornady 240 Gr XTP bullets. Then buy the Hornady green sabot seperately. (i'm not sure if this what your asking?????) The cost is over half of buying the smaller all in one package, here. But it is the same thing. As mentioned I run 100 gr of pyro pellets and shoot great groups with the xtp's. The best load combo I found and believe me I have tried a lot. I have taken 4 animals and performed flawlessly.

Up here the tendancy is go even smaller in Gr weight, many guys are shooting 200 and under with the 100 grain of powder out of 50 cals. At the range a couple of days ago 190 parts with 120 grains of select, this guy had 3-4" groups at 250 Yards. However he hasn't taken an animal with this load yet, but said it will go through 2 phone books, 3/4 plywoood and 4" into a stump at 100 yards, with perfect bullet expansion.....jury is a little wobbly on that one but still.

Yes they are dirty, fun to shoot and even better to clean!!!!!!!