i think i know the blade you guys are talking about.. Small i mean real small steel 100 gr. They're about half the size of my 4 bld. 90 gr. muzzy's. My buddy has them and tho he says they get good penetration into his block. One ofthe broadheads lost 2 blades in one shot. Yep he said he shot it into the block the arrow popped out about 3 in. and 2 of the blades were gonna. Now that could be a good bad thing you know...

Knuckles up>>> Brian