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Old 09-15-2005 | 12:41 AM
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StrutnBPS
 
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From: Bennettsville, SC
Default RE: 223 for daughter

DannyD

I am sure your daugther gets her good looks from her mother!
Great pic. Theres a smile that can't be faked.

It looks like along with every other post on this forum, it has turned into a battle about a whole different subject and your qestion was forgottenabout. lol. Sorry

After reading most of it, and most of all your posts, I would say that IMO it's not your daugther that wants or needs a new rifle. That its you that WANTS HER to have it. I know she is young, but if she tells you that she is alright with the 30-30, then let her be. I am sure if the recoil gets to be too much that she would tell you. I also agree with some of the others that maybe you shouldn't make her shoot so many rounds with the 30-30 at the range if she is already accurate with the rifle.

You say that you are watching her while she shoots. Well, I am sure that if I watched you while you shot,you would have some sort of flinch also. Most, if not all of us do. I have a flinch with my .270 that has nothing to do with recoil or noise. Its the movement of the firing pin (back of the bolt) that causes me to blink when it moves. The blinking of my eye causes me to flinch.

I would saythe pictureyou postedshouldprove to you that shes accurate with the 30-30.

Now, getting into the heated battle. Ipersonaly don't think you should use a.223 for deer. Its kinda like shooting the same size bulletat a deer that I shoot at squirells,just with a lot more velocity. I think that SC also has a law against shooting deer with any .22 caliber.

I know a guy who uses a 22-250 to shoot deer with. I will not hunt with this guy b/c I seen him have to chase the deer down and shoot it in the head or shoot it again with buck shot or pistol or whatever to kill it. He is a great shot and can shoot with most competitive shooters. So its not the shot placement. I've seen the bullet completely turn the shoulder into jelly and others blow out a hole the size of a bowling ball. And the deer STILL had to be chased down and shot again. I think that this is veryinhumane for the deer. As someone statedabove, use a bigger caliber that will have a better chance of killing the deer quicker.

I think if your daughter would see a deer suffer, espbeing a girl. She wouldn't want to hunt anymore.IMO you really raisethe odds of this happening with such a small caliber. You even said it yourself that you would like to use it for varmiting, didn't you? That should have answered your question on caliber right there.

Also the comments about a deer not being a big game animal. Its the biggest damn animal in SC or at least the part of SC that I hunt, other thanhogs. Yes there are moose and elk out west that out weigh a deer, but I don't think its fair to say that a deer isn't a big gamed animal.

Look at it this way, if you knew you were going to be shot and killed by an avg. joe (hunter). Would you want to be shot with a bullet that would probably make you suffer for a good amount of time or would you like to go ahead and get it over with. Yes, bigger bullets can also cause suffering, but its less likely.
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