Cayugad - Just looking at your pics a little more closely than I did before. Boy, that .62 cal RB sure did expand !! Sheez. That thing is nearly the same size as the head of your ball starter! I can see why some guys still love hunting with PRBs; it seems as though the BEST expanding saboted projectiles expand to the same size as your AVERAGE PRB. Makes me really wonder why I gave up shooting PRBs years ago. [&:] With the super fast twist TCs I own today, unfortunately I don't have much of a choice.[&o]