RE: 223 for daughter
Thanks il Coyote,
I should have mentioned that she shot the 243 (her 12 year old girlfriends)and says she doesnt feel much difference between that and the 30-30. I also had her shoot the Rem managed recoil out of the 270 and she said it was just barely less than the 30-30 and similar to the 243.
She practices all the time with the 22lr to make sure her form is correct. when she pulled the triger on the 30-30 at the deer she never felt the recoil but I would still rather her practice more often with the gun she will be shooting at the game.