This post is a big help. Saturday will be my first bowhunt. Like you 454, I am from near NYC (Bethpage LI actually). I now live in West Virginia and like you all my longtime friends are back in NY and do not hunt. I am fortunate however that my 13 year old daughter has taken up the sport with me. During gun season last year (our first) both my daughters and my deer were double lung shots and they never went too far. It's very hilly here and it makes me a little nervous to have to chase a deer. This post has made me think that I might not have to if I wait it out long enough.