You really do not save any money unless you order by the case it seems. Also, papellet or anyone else, have you tried the black powder that is sold by Graf & Sons. It is made by Wano out of Germany I was told. I have heard it is pretty good powder. I see Powder Inc. has raised the price again on the powder, so maybe the next case will be through Graf & Sons. AlthoughI wanted to pick up 5 pounds of Pinnacle FFFg.