cayugad,,
that is not the reason the plug seige,,cause it was not on there before,,actully it did a good job we took guns out sunday evening again and shot them to finish sighing them in,,i had to take plug out to bore sight the gun in again and it came out very easily,,that was after prolly a dozen or so shots,,

thanks for your input yall much appriciated,,as for the sport of muzzleloading,,its fun till u got to clean em,,then it a chore,,but the shooting does make up for it,