just to let you know they shoot in groups hunting rifle,parsel custom and full custom there was one guy ther is no telling how much money he had in his gun $4000. to $5000. I would guess I could not beleave the group he shot at 500 yards he shot a 5 shot group right at 1 inch he walk away with $3500.00 for that group but if you have that much in a gun you better win