I hear ya WV. He is going to do what he wants to do, regardless of what I say. I know some of his other buddies will "rib" him if he kills a spike and shows it to them. Oh well....like I said earlier.....I plan on hunting in Ohio a lot more this year!!! Another concern of mine is what is he teaching his kids by doing this?? I have 2 boys (9 and 3), who are REALLY interested in hunting. I am not saying I am "holier than thou", but I want my kids to know the importance of letting the small ones go. Then someday maybe they will have a chance to get a big one. I guess it goes back to what I think is important for me to teach my kids.