yeah, i noticed a week and a half ago they'd been working on that. I saw the reddest deer of my life the other nite in Iowa though, so not all are getting to the hair shedding. Last year, in Iowa, i saw the first velvet shedding between aug.14-21. I'm using iowa as my example because of good deer densities. I didnt see my first rubs behind my house until about the 24th. I dont know exactly the day in iowa becuase one day i was there and there wasn't any rubs and the next weekend this little staging area was completely trashed. mid august is pretty early i'd say. august 27th in MN-IA-WI-IL would be my guess on an average.

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