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That is when I saw my trusted 30-06 fail,oh it killed the elk,but it took 4 shots(3 in the heart-lungs and 1 in the neck to finish it),all of them were well placed shots,when gutting the cow she had 3 sluggs up against the ribbs on the far side,yes the 30-06 worked but the shot was only 40 yds.Now if a 30-06 can't punch trough at 40 yds what would it do at 200 or 300.[/blockquote]
I didn't read every answer, but i sure got a kick out of this quote!! hahahaa
Another classic case of NOT useing a "bullet" to do the job that YOU wanted done, then blameing the cartridge!!!
Happens all the time,
Drilling Man
PS, the "exact" same bullet at an even HIGHER velocity (read magnum) = an even "bigger" falure to penentrate deep!!! (assumeing a std. expanding bullet was used)
Yeah, I found that post a littlefunnyas well. If you can't kill an elk with a 30-06 then you need to take a long hard look at the particular bullet you are using. Was it a 125 grain ballistic tip or something? There isnothing on the North American continent with the exception of the large dangerous bears that I would feel under gunned hunting with a 30-06 and a good well constructed 180 grain bullet likea Trophy Bonded Bearclaw, Swift A-frame or Barnes X-bullet.Any of those30-06 roundswould be hot death on the biggest elk or moosethat ever lived. They would also no doubt consistently kill even the large bears but a larger more powerful round would be desirable if it came to stopping a charge.
I also found your responce to this guy about penetration funny as well. And you are absolutely right. There is a common misconception that higher velocity magnums equal deeper penetration when in fact: (Higher velocity mags = higher velocity bullet impacts on game) (Higher velocity impacts = more rapid bullet expansion) (Rapid bullet expansion = rapid decelleration due to the hugely increased frontal area of the bullet) (Rapid decelleration = less penetration)