Todd you paint ALOT of people with a very broad brush. So it's your opinion that unless I live in grizz country, my Warbird is un-necessary. Well I happen to think that your comments about there being very few places in AL to shoot deer a long way off is blatantly wrong. The art of "shooting house" hunting originated in the southern powerlines and right of ways of AL. ALOT of guys down there use high steppers for shooting deer well past the quartermile mark, just as they do allover the south and many places west of the MS. Just because you choose to stick deep inside the brush doesn't mean that it isn't necessary for others to have a need to shoot farther. My primary rifle stand in west TN is in the middle of a large field where I have a commanding view of ALOT of real estate and off my right shoulder the farthest point is 618 yds, over my left shoulder the tree line is 613 yds. I used to hunt the same area with my 06 and 7mags and would basically just watch and wish when they walked by on either end if over 400yds. So for me the big gun is a tool that fixes a problem. (BTW, no I have not had the first problem with bloodshot meat with this gun, bone fragmentation is more a result than bruised meat!)

As for not seeing the evidence of which I speak, just take a look at many of the posts in the gun sections asked about long range calibers or upgrading or going out west for long range hunts etc... They might not start off that way, but once someone like myself recommends a longranger, the wrath of God befalls the post and the name callin and "Well in my opinions..." start flyin with wreckless abandone. As for Todds Assertion about driving bullets past their failure velocity, that's evidence of his oldschool mindset. I am not suggesting men try driving CoreLokts too 4kps, I am talking about using modern technology to reliably and CLEANLY take animals at basically any range necessary. I realize alot of guys are anti-technology, that's fine but don't redicule me (and others like me) for choosing to do so. A smidge of ability, a laser rangefinder, a quality scope and rifle and some time spent practicing and scouting will make MANY people much more capable than some would like to admit or see unfold.

Much the same wrath befell compound shooters in the late 70s and early 80s. Now they are the rule vs the exception. I suppose it just takes time!
RA