Gorse if getting jumped EVERYTIME I or another poster recommends or even mentions a magnum too someone constitutes being "sensitive" then yeah call me whatever you please. The simple fact is it gets VERY old, rediculous and only shows the naysayers ignorance. I for one do NOT recommend (nor have I ever willingly) recommended larger guns too young shooters.
1000 ft#s, where did that theortical number come from? Does that mean that a deer shoot with only 800#s is gonna limp off and die a week later? Why also, does everyone have to redicule those who take deer at over 300yds? Another theoretical number which I think is bunk. Who set the those numbers and how did they arrive at them? See what I mean? It's arguement over hypothetical and purely random selections and numerical values.
"Inside 300yds, inside 300yds, inside 300yds" Is this the ONLY standard of comparison? And for those who either live in states that prohibit arms that reach out that far, why does that give you "carte blanche" to redicule those of us who have the freedom and ability to hunt areas that command a much larger viewing area and more possible shot opportunities? For the guys who say, "If you can't get any closer than XYZ (again a purely randomly obtained and hypothetical range) you are a sorry hunter or just plain suck!" What kind of attitude is that? I for one enjoy sitting up during firearms seasons and watch many crossings and travel routes from a single vantage point as opposed to sitting in close quarters and watching only 1 or 2 possible travel routes. Alot of guys also complain about needing to move into the woods after opening day anyway which adds more fodder too their collection for their obsession with getting closer and not needing to shoot very far. Well perhaps if you completely stayed out of the woods and simply setup in a location that offers viewing of multiple travel corridors you would then realize that bucks WILL move all season long under daylight conditions and you just might need to whack one at 400+ yds?
It's all relative and what works for brush hunters in PA might not be as effective for large southern food plots and vice-versa. I was just trying to bring out the fact that it is getting old to constantly be rediculed for offering a suggestion too someone who actually asked for recommendations in the first place. I thought that's part of what this place was for in the first place... a place where ideas and information could be exchanged WITHOUT redicule, belittlement and thread highjackin?
I'm a deathly serious bowhunter by nature, my first deer was killed with a bow when I was 13 and I have a couple of P&Y class bucks to be thankful for. I LOVE getting close and get that fix during bowseason (both were killed inside of 10yds). But I am a rifle junky and love tinkerin with guns and that's as much reason I gun hunt as anyother. I don't feel the need to call myself more of a "sportsman" by killing a buck in the woods at 75 yds as compared too the fellow who whacks one from the otherside of the field. But I guess there are som on here who have that urge!

RA