Well said Red .I personally feel that many people hate the magnums simply because they have never used them.Then there are those that are intimidated by the recoil of some magnums.Lastly there are those people that don't have the shootingskills to take advantage of any flat shooting cartridge be it a magnum or not.As to the part about the magnum shooters being lazy and lacking hunting skills,I hunt big gameonly with magnum rifles but I do hunt with and have been successful with a bow and arrow which requires much closer ranges and the skill to get within thosecloser ranges.