I am one of the ones that don't have any magnum cartridges in my gun cabinet. No need to really. If someone wants to use a Mag, Supermag, whatever, its their choice. I shoot a .30-06 and an 8mm Mauser. There is really no NEED for anything larger, though it would probably be nice in certain situations, and I doubt I will have a chance anytime soon to chase the big bears. It just seems like there are a lot of people out there, some I know personally, some I don't, are getting more and more lazy by the year. I have had people tell me they won't pull the trigger on something if they can't basically step out of the truck, drop it, pick it up, and walk back to the truck. People who seem to have lost the skill of hunting, and hope they can make that up by being able to shoot a little farther when the animals just won't stay close to the road. Problem is, people don't take the time to practice with these cartridges (or any other cartridge for that matter), which ends up with a lot of wounded game.Once, I watched a personshoot a deer, watched the deer run up a hill, with a group, and watch the deer fall down (probably after a solid 300 yards or so, I would imagine the shot was in the neighborhood of 300 yards still), and the hunters do nothing about it. We go and tell the people that the deer went down, and they are like "Oh, well, we didn't see it." So we went and told the GW, but by that time itmay have been too late anyway.

Sorry to be so long winded, but my beef with these new Magnums is not the guns themselves, but the lack of disipline people use when they get one, and the way companies market them to sound like they are the greatest things since sliced bread.