One more comment tealboy, I have found that the blade style makes a big difference on the ENTRANCE wound. The blades that have a small wing or turnout on the end will cut a bigger hole going in. They will not finish first in the penetration tests (but there not bad either) but as 5 shot stated, 55 or 60 ft lbs. they will passthrough on most hits....Fletch

KEEP THE WIND IN YOUR FACE.... FLETCH