I don't like the finish so it is inferior..not exactly what I said I just said it was inferior to that of my one year old remington ss BDL.

In all my life I have never come across more defects in a rifle then when buying Remingtons no one other manufacturereven comes close. Their quality has taken a decided turn for the worst and I can point to the late 80's as the starting point. I have been buying Remingtons since the early 70's and have many older then that .. I have had lots of themcustomized which turned out to be good guns although I could have bought a Sako with the money I spent putting them up to my specs. Three unfortunately came from the "custom shop" a mistake I will never make again. Never has so much money gained me so little gun. When It comes to Remingtons I basically like the action and trigger as well as the physical weight, when the gun is built right it is a great combination.


Another Gorse misquote

...my gunsmith friend never said they were junk ..where did I say he said that?. He absolutely loves Remingtons when they are nice and straight and have a decent barrel and trigger on them. If they show up at his shop in bad condition they leavethe way they should have left REmington but never will. Ever since they made their little Mass retailer deals Walmart/Kmart (coincidentally in the mid 80's)production has been the driver and quality has taken a back seat or trunk in this case. If your Industrial engineer buddy at Remington didn't pick up on this I am not surprised since many companies not just Remington don't know how to put out a quality product and being an industrial engineer has nothing to do with Quality, his job was to put out x amount of POS per day and make sure the process goes smoothly. Remington has ceased being a gun company a long time ago and only care about bottom line and are milking the 700 for all its worth and resting on their laurels. Believe it or not I used to live up the road from theircorporate hdqtrs and many of my neighbors were and no longer are employees there. I have personally never met a happy employee that worked there, not a one.About a year ago I posted "My Last Remington" go look it up and see just what I said about them. To wrap this up here is my final say to you on the matter .New remingtons are only good for donor actions and that is as far as it goes.. Barrel ,recoil lug,trigger and cheap floorplate and stockget sold on Ebay immediately. I would take a Savage or Howa over one in a heart beat if I needed a factory rifle for the gun safe . Those 2 companies have quality control and Remington would do well to mimic them. . TheHard evidence you are looking for is that I have spent thousands of dollars on Remington products over the years, probably could have gone on many great hunting trips had I not done this in retrospect.. I didn't read a article on them and form an opinion or listen to idiotic internet hearsay .I went out to a full service gun store looked at them and formed an opinion and compared them to anydthing out there and usually purchased them knowing that something or another would have to be changed modified or fixed . In effect I become a guinea pig . After 50+ remingtons I have plenty of "Hard Evidence" and your opinion starting to sound like a lot of Total BS. When you purchase as many Remingtons as I have and seen the quailty swings and have money come out of your pocket and dealt with their customer servicethen you can feel qualified to speak about it. Right now I don't think you have a clue. BTW you can use the ignore button on my posts as I have graciously done the samefor you. Oh yeah and untwist your panties