RobinHood36---Good question??? You can bet your first born I've done that!!!!

On several different occassions I've felt the need to do this. I pick my spots as I do for many of the other methods I use per encounter. It's usually a herd bull & I can tell he's holding tight and getting figety at the same time, in other words he's fixing to grab his cows & run or the lead cow will take charge & do the same thing.

Rarely does the bull turn coward & run when you charge him screaming & breaking things on the way in. He will stay put and defend what's his, (his cows) especially if you put quick pressure on him & he realizes he can't round up his cows for escape quick enough before you get there. It can become quite a screaming match!! Nowadays when in that spot and am close but still can't see him, I hit him with the "Threat", yes I steal his cow, that pretty much ends the encounter!! <grin>

I also charge any group of cows I come upon. Of course I examine the situation when possible. If I'm spotted by my movement or whatever & I see they're nervous I explode right into the middle of them, when I can't see the bull. I then hit with a lip bawl type scream which challenges the real bull the right to keep his cows & at the same time it can call his cows away from him, this is the ultimate slap in the face to a real bull. If I feel he's hanging up, I don't get into a screaming match with him, which often results in no bull on the ground, I hit him with a level #2 of the "Threat" again that usually ends the encounter.

In both instances, you get a bull to "React" to the situation, this is key to getting him to throw caution to the wind!!!! No bulls sneaking in here, they come in pretty fired up!!!! <grin> You gotta love elk hunting!!!!!-------ElkNut1