Wby advertises that there guns will shoot at least a 11/2' group. Rem. says there the most accurate firearm out of the box. But they don,t say athing abjout the size of the group. Mark V is a great actions,with the shortest stroke in bolt actions,which makes it the fastest to operate. Very accurate after you dial them in with the bullets they llike,and the same for the vanguard. Have fun. vangunsmith