Briman

I have mosin nagants that will shoot 1 1/2" 3 shot groups with iron sights, and that isn't saying much.

James B

I would buy another Vanguard but nothing could make me buy another Mark V. I got a real Lemmon in that line. Won't do that mistake again. Remington, Ruger and Savage are what I look at now if I want a Bolt gun. My next Bolt will be the Savage with accu-trigger.