It just makes you wonder how hunters in PA can be so far apart on this issue.Some agree with the DCNR that DPSM need to be as low as 5 in big tracts of state forest.Then there's the other side that liked the idea of 30-50 dpsm.I'm in the middle.Try to maintain the herd at 15-20 which allows hard but decent hunting yet according to biologists in the beginning of this herd reduction it would allow for regen.15-20 was the original desired goal if I remember right.