No fight I just wanted to know. You say you know did you read it in a book or somthing, if it is in print it must be true? My last years deer was a 8 point with a 21 inch inside spread and was 182 pounds thats whats you get here in va. but thats all I will say on the matter I read all the rest of your post and to say anything more is a waste of time. Good luck with all of them giant deer you have in texas we here in va are quite happy with what we have here.