I have had 6 or 7 Ruger rifles. Four of them were 10-15 years ago. Those rifles had pretty good triggers. They needed no trigger work to shoot pretty well. The last two Rugers that I have had, the triggers were lousy. 6-8 lbs. I had them reworked with good results. However I had the same problem as listed above, one of them just wouldn't shoot. I am talking about groups of well over two inches at best and more like 3-4 inches. The last one, my 25-06 shoots very well and the trigger is now real good. I hate the fact that you know that if you buy a ruger you are going to have to fix the trigger. Why can't that install a good adjustable trigger???[:@] I think I would replace any future ruger triggers before I left the store. Probably with a Timney.