Let me "chime in from another state" in support of ddear and others.

AJ52, you "may refuse to believe PA is that bad off", but that doesn't mean its not so. In the southern tier of NY, our deer have been getting hammered. Our herd decreased 40% in 2 years. 2/3 of NY's WMU are below targets.

I think that the "Naysayers" DID become part of the solution, by loudly raising their voices and attracting the attention of NY DEC. As a result, DEC announced that building the herd is the priority for the next few years.

You may not know what's really going on unless you are right there in the trenches.

I have to laugh at those armchair biologists that keep saying "manage the herd", and "kill more does", and "earn a buck." In your neck of the woods, this could be the gospel truth. Depending on YOUR region, this may be the most ridiculous rhetoric ever.