Zoomer, I agree with you on the tree lounge, but I have 2 of the older
models. Don't like the new models. Mr Bob Hice has bought back the
company and hope he will go back to the old design
I have used the old ones and they are extremely safe, noisy to get up and down a tree. I tired the new pre-HICE model and it almost killed me , I believe they have been redesinged since he took over. I now have one Old treelounge, a Buckshot centreshot and the Ol man multivision. All are great stands