Ive been thinking about this all day. Have you ever had someone say did ya hear about that big 12 pt shot last week. you say know how did he get him. they say well dont tell anyone but he got him under the lights. Then they preceed an how many racks hes got on his wall and how good of a hunter he is and blah blah ba blah...This makes me so mad. how can anyone that shoots under the lights look up at the rack in there living room and say I worked hard for that one. To me I couldnt even look at him. and these are the guys that have 4 or 5 nice racks on the wall. Put those boys in the woods with me or any one that really works for there trophy or meat and they would be lost. I shot a nine pt 3 years ago with my bow and it took me 7 yrs to get a opp. with several missed and close encounters, and alot of footwork and scouting. now I can look up at that deer and say I worked hard for that one. and be proud. I wish everyone good luck this year that works hard for it. just had to get that of my chest. and remember this PATIENCE and PERSISTANCE pays off